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Post by N130 DWM Wed Jan 25, 2012 5:45 am

Should be, it's changed to every 5 I think!

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Post by K853 MTJ Wed Jan 25, 2012 5:53 am

AY :S Thats a bit ridiculous dont you think :S Thats just literally throwing money way
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Post by DMN 33-1 Wed Jan 25, 2012 6:02 am

new routes for lan trav
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Post by DMN 25R Wed Jan 25, 2012 6:07 am

As independent adjudicator for the Competition Commission in the game (I was asked by K853 MTJ a few weeks ago when another issue was raised), I feel Liver Travels proposal is not viable for the Wirral. The Liver Travel services proposed here are almost exact duplicates of services operated by M&D, and therefore it cannot be operated under this structure. Although I do in this role I have no objection to Liver Travel working on the Wirral, it would be preferable for Liver Travel to alter their operations for this area. It is excesive for a total operation of (for example) 14 buses per hour on the same 2 routes between Birkenhead and Seacombe, operated by two companies. There would not objection to the whole operation proposed if a QBP is established on the routes proposed here.
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Post by N130 DWM Wed Jan 25, 2012 6:18 am

I'm sorry, but if i'm running the higher frequency how i'm I chucking the money away :S
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Post by DMN 33-1 Wed Jan 25, 2012 6:21 am

could u not just change the route or like dmn said why not a QBP on the route

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Post by N130 DWM Wed Jan 25, 2012 6:22 am

That would affect other routes by placing the older buses on there, it is not viable.
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Post by K853 MTJ Wed Jan 25, 2012 6:27 am

Im not willing to go into a QBP
And Luke, look at it this way, Arrivas 437 is a very profitable route, but that doesn't mean stagecoach register an exact duplicate to make money. Its not as simple as duplicating a route and making money, and one that is long established and been running long before is more likely to succeed than one thats been registered for the sake of it (look at stagecoach on the 79, they admitted defeat to arriva after the whole Arriva/GTL thing, look how GTL finished up...)
Duplicating my services, which is what a few companies now seem to be doing, isnt viable either, not on minor routes. If it was the 10, thats understandable, but it isnt.
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Post by N606 CKA (6606) Wed Jan 25, 2012 6:32 am

I think the best think to do would we all have a discussion off-forum about it, I don't want any arguments, I want a reasonable outcome for all parties concerned.

At least if we all have a chat together about it we can come to a reasonable conclusion. If this is agreeable, please let me know.

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Post by N130 DWM Wed Jan 25, 2012 6:33 am

It's business, it's competition! In a business, you need to be able to put up with that competition! You try and compete by upping your frequency! If you win fair dos!

I'm not going to duplicate EVERY single route you operate like GTL did to Arriva.
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Post by K853 MTJ Wed Jan 25, 2012 6:42 am

It seems like it, your duplicating routes that dont need to be duplicated (403s for one).
Theres competition thens theres duplication, theres a difference. Duplication on certain routes is understandable and viable, but theres a line to be drawn.
I think well leave this by agreeing with N606, if you want to appeal to decision, contact me off forum and I shall arrange something. Otherwise as ruled by the comp comission, your most recent routes have been rejected apart from the cancellation of the 68
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Post by N130 DWM Wed Jan 25, 2012 6:49 am

Sent a message on MSN, we'll sort it there.

I'd also like to void the cancellation of the 68.

Good news, a load of buses soon to be for sale on UVS!

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Post by K853 MTJ Wed Jan 25, 2012 6:53 am

Iv not got any messages on there.
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Post by DMN 33-1 Thu Jan 26, 2012 7:32 am

can i chase my routes up please?

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Post by N606 CKA (6606) Sun Jan 29, 2012 7:03 am

Approved.

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Post by X216JOF866 Sun Jan 29, 2012 7:16 am

ceshire links first route 29E

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Post by X216JOF866 Sun Jan 29, 2012 7:18 am

HERE AGAIN?

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Post by DMN 33-1 Sun Jan 29, 2012 7:24 am

thank you N606

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Post by X216JOF866 Sun Jan 29, 2012 8:00 am

ANDTRY AGAIN :p

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Post by X216JOF866 Sun Jan 29, 2012 8:43 am

start: NORTHWICH WATLING STREET STAND G
finish: OVER ST JOHNS, PIPERS ASH
via: DAVENHAM, MOULTON, WHARTON, WINSFORD, GRANGE, MOUNT PLEASENT, WOODFORD INDUSTRIAL ESTATE

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Post by DMN 33-1 Sun Jan 29, 2012 8:53 am

are u making sure it is submited before sending the message

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Post by X216JOF866 Sun Jan 29, 2012 9:00 am

yeah, N606 says there something wrong so he told me to post it like this Smile

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Post by Metrobus1069 Sun Jan 29, 2012 9:50 am

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Post by N606 CKA (6606) Sun Jan 29, 2012 10:54 am

All approved.

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Post by DMN 25R Tue Jan 31, 2012 7:13 am

Amendmants to our routes starting in Ormskirk next week.
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